I Mean, Who Throws A Shoe? Honestly! (1569 hits)
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Submitted by Razor <Jeremy_21117.at.hotmail.com> (View user info) at 2008-12-14 23:35:03 EST
Random Task would have totally killed George Bush.
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Submitted by Caulaincourt (user info) at 2008-12-19 03:17:13 EST (#)
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Submitted by Razor (user info) at 2008-12-18 14:56:37 EST (#)
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What do you want me to do, attempt to foment armed revolution against the United States government? Give me a break, the rational and sane thing to do is be a voice against his policies, which I have done in person to everyone I know.
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you don't need pitchforks to change things. politicans read the public opinion before they do anything.
i am sure that if there had been a general malaise instead of the patriotic bandwagon we witnessed in the american public, the govt (especially Congress) would've been a lot more careful in their approach of the war.
the bailout caused a lot more debate than the war has prior to the invasion and the elected officials were suddenly much more attentive to the public. maybe because people actually cared?!
i'm not saying canada is better. that's your way of putting it to divert the subject. we went into afghanistan - which i oppose because i think sending our military supported with our arrogance that we know what's best for others is wrong - and we didn't do shit. in fact, there was even that same excitment you get before a sports event.
at least i have the decency to admit it. kinda like a fat fuck who knows he's fat cuz he's a glutonous pig even though he doesn't do anything about it. change comes through admittance first.
now seeing that iraq is an even bigger illegitimate clusterfuck, i don't understand how you don't feel embarassed and partly responsible for this. you would be the fat fuck who blames his genes and thinks he's a beautiful creature.
Submitted by Caulaincourt (user info) at 2008-12-19 02:39:29 EST (#)
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i guess it took an actual english speaking person to explain my point better.
Submitted by St_Jimmy (user info) at 2008-12-18 15:28:37 EST (#)
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Submitted by Razor (user info) at 2008-12-18 14:56:37 EST (#)
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What do you want me to do, attempt to foment armed revolution against the United States government? Give me a break, the rational and sane thing to do is be a voice against his policies, which I have done in person to everyone I know.
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Yeah, but it's not like you're out protesting in the streets either. I have to agree with basically what Caul is saying. The world sees half the country explicitly supporting these policies through their votes, while the other half isn't exactly working real hard against them.
Sure some people complain on message boards and youtube. Some complain to friends and coworkers. But the rest of the world doesn't see this. Every jerkoff in the western hemisphere has a blog nowadays. Words have lost almost all meaning. If you're not actually doing anything, then people probably aren't noticing.
Course, you probably don't think doing something is the "sane and rational" thing to do. Perhaps. Let's face facts. You have a job, a wife, children, a house. The american dream. You're fat and happy and are not likely to sacrifice all that for the sake of some brown people on the other side of the planet. After all, why should you?
But I think if you were truly outraged, if you felt a real, honest, horrible injustice were being done, you would actually do something rather than being "a voice against his policies". Imagine if some horrible injustice were being done to your wife, rather than to brown people on the other side of the world. I have to believe you'd be doing a lot more than just complaining to co-workers and fake interweb people.
Or, to sum it up, inaction=apathy.
Submitted by Razor (user info) at 2008-12-18 14:56:37 EST (#)
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Dude, your central point was that all of us Americans can barely remember there is a war going on and we've washed our hands of any responsibility.
I countered by saying that just about every American I know has that war on their mind quite often, which you completely ignored.
And I also pointed out that a large number of us did not vote for Bush and have been vehemently opposed to his policies since day one, and that many of us felt (and still feel) that he didn't win the election in 2000.
What do you want me to do, attempt to foment armed revolution against the United States government? Give me a break, the rational and sane thing to do is be a voice against his policies, which I have done in person to everyone I know.
So do I feel personally responsible for that war? No, I don't. As someone on the record as a voice of dissent, I feel more that I can say "I told you so."
Do I feel that America is responsible for the war as a country? Yes, yes I do.
Submitted by Caulaincourt (user info) at 2008-12-18 14:28:25 EST (#)
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Submitted by Razor (user info) at 2008-12-18 10:54:50 EST (#)
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oh and please, that's bullshit. the republicans ran a terible campaign and had 8 years of horrible baggage yet Obama only won with fifty one or two percent of the popular vote. so don't act like they're suddenly marginal.
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You don't understand American electoral politics at all.
http://www.fivethirtyeight.com
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wtf, is this a joke? i understand how the electoral college works. it's so simple.
my point was that still close to half of the PEOPLE voted for republicans even though obama won by a large margin in electoral votes. so it's really not as marginal as you'd like us to believe since a couple of point in popular votes would've sufficed to tip results the other way.
anyway, i'm glad you focused on that parenthesis and ignored my main point, which is was about your complete absence of guilt or even anything ressembling embarassment towards the last 8 years. but hey, you didn't vote for it and you shed a tear once so you can sleep at night and convince yourself that america is pure and innocent.
Submitted by sage104 (user info) at 2008-12-18 11:54:24 EST (#)
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Submitted by rubbermaid (user info) at 2008-12-15 08:35:32 EST (#)
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"All I can say is that they were a size 10."
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FUCK!!! I totally didn't see this.
And I shouldn't have even repeated it, knowing you heard that from the same source I did.
Submitted by sage104 (user info) at 2008-12-18 11:51:19 EST (#)
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Ha! Points for Random Task.
I heard that when asked about the situation, he said "All I can tell you is that they were a size ten."
Submitted by Razor (user info) at 2008-12-18 10:54:50 EST (#)
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oh and please, that's bullshit. the republicans ran a terible campaign and had 8 years of horrible baggage yet Obama only won with fifty one or two percent of the popular vote. so don't act like they're suddenly marginal.
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You don't understand American electoral politics at all.
http://www.fivethirtyeight.com
Submitted by Caulaincourt (user info) at 2008-12-17 23:49:37 EST (#)
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Submitted by Razor (user info) at 2008-12-17 12:40:21 EST (#)
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The party of the neocons has been reduced to nothing more than a regional brand that takes hold in the deeply rural and uneducated areas of the country that the vast majority of Americans want nothing to do with. """
oh and please, that's bullshit. the republicans ran a terible campaign and had 8 years of horrible baggage yet Obama only won with fifty one or two percent of the popular vote. so don't act like they're suddenly marginal.
that doesn't really matter and is beside my point, which you keep missing and will probably do again because you don't understand the message your attitude (i'm talking about you as individual now) sends, but i wanted to call you out on that bullshit too.
Submitted by Caulaincourt (user info) at 2008-12-17 23:41:58 EST (#)
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only 30% of our electorate voted for conservatives in Canada yet us or people abroad say "Canadians elect conservative govt" and it's ok. 3/4 of quebecers were against our presence in Afghanistan (i'm among them - this war is none of our business) and i don't cry when they say Canadians support the war in Afghanistan. everybody with half a brain knows these are not generalizations.
but apparently, we can't say "americans elected Bush twice". we must use weird ass phrasing to make sure that pussies like you or hidden don't feel included so that you can sleep at night. fuck that, why should i make you that favor and why is that so hard to accept? when the news came out that Obama was elected they didn't say "America chooses Obama (except <list of all the people who didn't vote for him>)" I can't believe I have to explain this to you.
so anyway you slice it or dice it, americans elected Bush twice and supported this war in percentages not even seen during WWII.
if anything, i find this "don't blame me" attitude of yours and of that majority who suddenly disappeared extremely worrisome and disturbing. it's an indicator that it WILL happen again. i'm amazed you don't feel some degree of responsability.
look, i am as irrelevant as you in the big scheme of things, but i certainly feel partly responsible for my country's decisions. the people we (the 'west') invade live off fucking dirt, so the excuse that we quietly don't support this in our head is an insult to those who get bombed. it makes us look like passive obeidient little lemmings. now what does that remind you of?
Submitted by Replen (user info) at 2008-12-17 13:53:06 EST (#)
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Submitted by forensicgirl3 (user info) at 2008-12-17 13:33:06 EST (#)
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You can call me anything you want for admitting this, but I actually cried on the day that Bush was sworn into office. I knew that it was a horrific disaster.
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When Dubya was first running, a hardcore Republican aquaintance of mine asked me what I thought of him. I remember saying, "I think he's capable of great evil."
Sure, I was being hyperbolic at the time but guess who ended up being right.
Submitted by Razor (user info) at 2008-12-17 12:40:21 EST (#)
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You know what you miss in your generalizing culo?
This simple fact:
A very very large number of Americans, myself included, did not vote for Bush in 2000. In fact, he not only lost the popular vote but in the belief of many, again including myself, he also lost the electoral vote and had the Presidency handed to him by the conservative members of the United States Supreme Court.
You can call me anything you want for admitting this, but I actually cried on the day that Bush was sworn into office. I knew that it was a horrific disaster.
Then 9/11 happened. A large number of Americans, used to living the soft insulated life (which, by the way, I might add, Canadians such as yourself also live), were absolutely terrified and threw their support behind Bush because he vowed to protect them (although I was not among their number).
I actually remember saying to some friends at lunch a few days after 9/11 that "it's not too late for him to resign, maybe he realizes he's in over his head now."
In 2004, the Democrats made the mistake of nominating a terrible candidate and running one of the most monumentally inept Presidential campaigns in modern history. And even with all that said, Kerry led in the polls until Bin Laden cleverly scared people by releasing a video a few days before the election.
With all that said, I also utterly reject your assertion that Americans "forget" about the war in Iraq. You don't live here. I do. And I don't know a single person, Democrat or Republican, who does not have a strong opinion about the war in Iraq. It is on people's minds. It gets discussed at parties. People talk about it on the phone.
And this year, Americans stood up and universally rejected the policies which they unfortunately as a whole only fully began to understand during Bush's second term in office.
I know people who have voted Republican their entire lives who voted Democrat for the first time in 2008. The party of the neocons has been reduced to nothing more than a regional brand that takes hold in the deeply rural and uneducated areas of the country that the vast majority of Americans want nothing to do with.
So stop generalizing about us and acting like you know who we are. You don't, any more than I can make a claim on what Iraqis, Zimbabweans, or Canadians are like.
Walk a mile in our shoes or shut the fuck up.
Submitted by Caulaincourt (user info) at 2008-12-17 10:10:44 EST (#)
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Submitted by hidden101 (user info) at 2008-12-17 08:59:41 EST (#)
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i guess he hasn't seen Bush's approval rating. 20%, the lowest ever recorded for a US president.
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that approval rating went south after katrina and the economy started slowing down. bush had an 80% approval rating before the invasion and the majority (<- keyword) of ppl supported it.
i'm kinda tired of explaining this to you, that one can refer to a group based on its majority.
i don't know where all these people went. they're probably too worried about their 401k's to think about the fact that they're occupying foreign land.
the people in nazi germany were just as oblivious and careless about their military actions in other countries which wars they had with were just part of life, like the weather. kinda like your attitude now "oh well, i guess we're in iraq...meh...what can we do"
Submitted by forensicgirl3 (user info) at 2008-12-17 09:21:52 EST (#)
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I do hope that Iraqi fellow is let off. He didn't hit Bush, the White House is saying basically no harm, no foul, and this incident is too petty to make an issue out of.
Submitted by hidden101 (user info) at 2008-12-17 08:59:41 EST (#)
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Submitted by forensicgirl3 (user info) at 2008-12-17 07:58:29 EST (#)
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the shoe throwing is quite funny, but when you think about it, it's also pretty sad that this president stands there laughing, in a country he invaded illegally while the people who elected him back home can barely remember that their country is occupying another and washes their hands of any responsability.
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I don't think that's the case, Caul. Seriously c'mon.
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don't mind him. he's on the outside looking in and has no idea what he's talking about. he doesn't live in the US and he's never been to Iraq. i don't know anyone here that doesn't have Iraq on their mind constantly. he has absolutely no clue about Iraq (funny thing i just thought of- i've personally spoken with more Iraqis than Canadians in my life). what he also doesn't get is that Bush honestly believes in his mind that what he has done in Iraq is a good thing. he believes he is bringing stability to an unstable part of the world. i'm no fan of war, but everyone knows that if you want to change an entire region, it has never happened without war, not one single time throughout history. the US never would have been a country if not for war. that goes for Canada also. that's not to say i approve of the Iraq war, but that i at least understand what motives Bush had in that empty head of his. i most certainly disagree with the Iraq war and have since the beginning, despite Caul's best efforts to prove otherwise.
Caul honestly believes that all Americans voted for Bush and wanted war. i guess he hasn't seen Bush's approval rating. 20%, the lowest ever recorded for a US president. oh well. the hearts and minds have changed dramatically since the last presidential election. let's give Obama a chance to clean up the mess Bush left behind.
Submitted by EmissionImpossible (user info) at 2008-12-17 08:11:52 EST (#)
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I threw a shoe at my sister once and it hit my mommas jigsaw puzzle over :(
Submitted by forensicgirl3 (user info) at 2008-12-17 07:58:29 EST (#)
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the shoe throwing is quite funny, but when you think about it, it's also pretty sad that this president stands there laughing, in a country he invaded illegally while the people who elected him back home can barely remember that their country is occupying another and washes their hands of any responsability.
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I don't think that's the case, Caul. Seriously c'mon.
Submitted by Caulaincourt (user info) at 2008-12-17 02:04:26 EST (#)
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winnning the hearts and minds...
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"they hate us because we're free!"
the shoe throwing is quite funny, but when you think about it, it's also pretty sad that this president stands there laughing, in a country he invaded illegally while the people who elected him back home can barely remember that their country is occupying another and washes their hands of any responsability.
Submitted by i_can_get_you_a_toe (user info) at 2008-12-16 06:32:32 EST (#)
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It was classic.
Submitted by pen_name (user info) at 2008-12-16 02:07:30 EST (#)
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This deserves a billion hits. It makes me sad that it isn't
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Submitted by Snark (user info) at 2008-12-15 18:52:35 EST (#)
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SHOE FIGHT!
Submitted by AsshOly (user info) at 2008-12-15 12:01:06 EST (#)
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Submitted by Falafel (user info) at 2008-12-15 00:15:57 EST (#)
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I don't really see how this news is especially surprising, considering that in Middle Eastern culture, the bottoms of your feet and your left hand are the considered the dirtiest parts of the fucking body.
Throwing a shoe is the North American equivalent of throwing your asshole or your chode at someone.
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I found this review hilarious.
Submitted by Snark (user info) at 2008-12-15 11:20:21 EST (#)
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Submitted by shitfuck (user info) at 2008-12-15 00:15:39 EST (#)
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He deserved it.
Submitted by scourge (user info) at 2008-12-15 10:19:45 EST (#)
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w with the bob and weave
Submitted by Method (user info) at 2008-12-15 09:45:19 EST (#)
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Merry Christmas!
Submitted by pen_name (user info) at 2008-12-15 09:29:27 EST (#)
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No Comment
Submitted by rubbermaid (user info) at 2008-12-15 08:35:32 EST (#)
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"All I can say is that they were a size 10."
Submitted by mystiamoon (user info) at 2008-12-15 07:24:28 EST (#)
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You cannot slay the Anti-Christ with your Sketchers, I already tried that in 2004!
Submitted by HadToBeDone (user info) at 2008-12-15 06:25:23 EST (#)
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Submitted by RoadSong (user info) at 2008-12-15 03:43:35 EST (#)
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The Secret Service seems to be doing it's usual,showing up AFTER the fact.
As much as I dislike the prez,he should not be having to dodge shoes during press conferences.
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Yeah. Now everyone will have to take their shoes off on their way into press conferences, too.
Submitted by skrapmetal (user info) at 2008-12-15 05:48:07 EST (#)
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An "Iraqi journalist" whipped the loafer at him. I'd say that's about as impartial news reporting as anything in the US. How are we even hearing about this?
Submitted by SilvrWolf (user info) at 2008-12-15 03:55:14 EST (#)
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I laughed harder at Dubya's comments after the incident. His half-joking/half-mocking answers didn't hide his eyes that told of a primal desire to throw a Texas-sized ass whipping on that dude.
And why is it a surprise that he's so quick to dodge a shoe? He's been ducking questions and responsibility for the last eight years... <rimshot>
Submitted by RoadSong (user info) at 2008-12-15 03:43:35 EST (#)
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The Secret Service seems to be doing it's usual,showing up AFTER the fact.
As much as I dislike the prez,he should not be having to dodge shoes during press conferences.
Submitted by Wildman (user info) at 2008-12-15 00:43:22 EST (#)
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Submitted by Falafel (user info) at 2008-12-15 00:15:57 EST (#)
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...in Middle Eastern culture, the bottoms of your feet and your left hand are the considered the dirtiest parts of the fucking body.
^^^^
That's one of the reasons why they're still willfully wallowing around in the 13th century.
Submitted by Caulaincourt (user info) at 2008-12-15 00:31:18 EST (#)
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w has some great reflexes
Submitted by Dexter-Brown (user info) at 2008-12-15 00:22:54 EST (#)
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w has the reflexes of a cat!
Submitted by Falafel (user info) at 2008-12-15 00:15:57 EST (#)
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I don't really see how this news is especially surprising, considering that in Middle Eastern culture, the bottoms of your feet and your left hand are the considered the dirtiest parts of the fucking body.
Throwing a shoe is the North American equivalent of throwing your asshole or your chode at someone.
Submitted by shitfuck (user info) at 2008-12-15 00:15:39 EST (#)
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He deserved it.