ghey marriage (yes it has been done to death. I don't care) (2003 hits)
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Submitted by loki (View user info) at 2006-11-03 09:39:34 EST
I've always been of the opinion that what consenting adults do in the privacy of their own homes is some more of your damn business. I've also never understood the claim that allowing homosexuals to get married somehow makes a mockery of the institute of marriage. Quite frankly I know plenty of heterosexuals who do that just fine on their own ie. Brittany Spears et al. I also never understood the big deal about it from the gay community. I suppose that marriage is more important to some people than it is to me, but why bother. If you are committed to someone then who the fuck cares about it being a legally recognized union.
Then I got a phone call from my mom yesterday. A long time family friend died rather unexpectedly this week. Well, it was cancer so I don't suppose it was that unexpectedly but I thought she was in remission. Anyway, the thing is this person was in a long time relationship with another woman - GASP. It's a small mountain town in the traditional bible belt so it was all on the down low. Bad pun there, sorry. These two womenz ran one of those little tourist shops that you always see in resort towns. I don't know how long they were together, my whole life anyway. No one ever talked about it, but as I got older and more wise in the ways of the world I clued in that they were a bit more than business partners and roommates.
What occurred to me yesterday is that the community is not going to react in the same way to this death that they would if this were a heterosexual couple. I don't know how this is in the rest of the world, but where I come from when someone loses a spouse they end up in this little cocoon of support. People want to help, but they don't know what to do so they load them up on casseroles and neatly packaged meals with instructions for heating them printed on the lids. They mow the grass, prune the trees, feed the pets, insist on dragging them out to dinner. This goes on for about a year and then they try to fix them up with some other widow/widower/divorcee in the area. If there are any children in the family then god help them because the kids will not know a moment of peace until they escape off to college.
In this case though, people are going to treat her like she lost a good friend and business partner but not like she lost a spouse.
she lost a spouse make no mistake about it
I just think that she should be forced to face the same level of community harassment that other people have to deal with when they lose a spouse.
We're heading up there this weekend for a visit. I figure my family are some of the few people who really know the full scope of what is going on. I'm not really sure what to do. Maybe I'll do what other people do when they don't know what to do but want to do something to help; baked chicken, sourdough rolls, and a delicious green bean casserole.
you can take the kid out the hills but you can't take the hills out of the kid I suppose
Anyway, my request here is that if you live in a state where gay marriage is on the ballot, please just take a second and think about people like this before you pull that lever or push that button or whatever is it you do in your state.
I'm loki and I approve this message.
(see that was a nice heartfelt story and I had to go and fuck it up by being a smart ass at the end)
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Submitted by beauxjizzle (user info) at 2006-11-07 17:42:39 EST (#)
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I've seen better (-1)
Submitted by Foolproof (user info) at 2006-11-07 15:36:16 EST (#)
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Submitted by Caulaincourt (user info) at 2006-11-07 03:27:43 (#)
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another tired debate brought to you by the U.S. of A.
don't you ever get fed up of lagging 10 years behind the civilized on "issues" like gay marriage, abortion and the like?
tune in on december for another installment of the war on christmas!
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For a dirty, homo Canadian, I gotta agree with you.
America is like the Flintstones while the rest of the developed world is at Jetsons status.
To all non-Americans: I'm sorry. This country is a failed, embarrassing pit.
Now go wave your flags, patriots. Remember, personal opinions are now being called grounds for TREASON!
My stars! I'm treasonous. (This whole fucking debacle of a country reminds me of the Red Scare. They don't believe what we believe, KILL THEM!)
Submitted by Newty (user info) at 2006-11-07 09:47:10 EST (#)
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yo coloey, you always manage to pick up on my typo's don't you??????????? i meant sweetcorn
Submitted by Caulaincourt (user info) at 2006-11-07 03:43:13 EST (#)
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i am fully expecting you to make a "CAUL IS GHEY!" come back.
which will be quite funny considering that you and your 'man' are both androgynes.
Submitted by Caulaincourt (user info) at 2006-11-07 03:27:43 EST (#)
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another tired debate brought to you by the U.S. of A.
don't you ever get fed up of lagging 10 years behind the civilized on "issues" like gay marriage, abortion and the like?
tune in on december for another installment of the war on christmas!
Submitted by Juden (user info) at 2006-11-07 02:51:09 EST (#)
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i ain't no catcher or pitcher, but mt rushmore was pretty hot.
Submitted by coley (user info) at 2006-11-06 21:05:02 EST (#)
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Newty: wtf is sweetsorn?
must be the brit version of sweet corn...?
heh
Submitted by Axolotl (user info) at 2006-11-06 17:22:57 EST (#)
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We ought to just have a civil union for legal purposes, and leave marriage to the church. Would be a lot simpler that way.
Submitted by Newty (user info) at 2006-11-06 13:22:39 EST (#)
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the only nice veg is sweetsorn
Submitted by coley (user info) at 2006-11-06 12:51:15 EST (#)
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Don't get me wrong, I still like veggies. Just not green beans. Yuck!
In fact, I <3 broccoli, spinach, cauliflower and carrots probably the most. yum.
Submitted by loki (user info) at 2006-11-06 12:48:05 EST (#)
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Poor Shlongy still hasn't had that little talk and doesn't know the difference between boys and girls.
Submitted by Shlongy (user info) at 2006-11-06 11:09:59 EST (#)
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I KNEW your "husband" had a vagina.
Submitted by loki (user info) at 2006-11-06 10:50:39 EST (#)
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Submitted by locksly (user info) at 2006-11-04 23:22:39 (#)
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"I've always been of the opinion.... I've also never understood"
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Thats all I got from this post
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What a clear, concise, and well worded argument. Clearly I now see the error of my ways.
I don't actually eat the green bean casserole either, but it always disappears at Thanksgiving so someone must like it.
Submitted by Newty (user info) at 2006-11-06 10:29:20 EST (#)
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Submitted by coley (user info) at 2006-11-06 01:31:29 (#)
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Submitted by apollo88 (user info) at 2006-11-06 01:20:15 (#)
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yup
pretty much.
green bean casserole sounds disgusting.
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I thought I was the only person alive who detested green bean casserole.
In fact, I detest all things green bean.
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as do i. i am healthy though, i eat all my vegtables, crisps(chips), chips(french fries) and i also eat apple flavered sherbert. i mean if thats not healthy then what is?
Submitted by coley (user info) at 2006-11-06 01:31:29 EST (#)
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Submitted by apollo88 (user info) at 2006-11-06 01:20:15 (#)
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yup
pretty much.
green bean casserole sounds disgusting.
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I thought I was the only person alive who detested green bean casserole.
In fact, I detest all things green bean.
Submitted by apollo88 (user info) at 2006-11-06 01:20:15 EST (#)
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yup
pretty much.
green bean casserole sounds disgusting.
Submitted by Lisa (user info) at 2006-11-06 00:25:16 EST (#)
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"I just think that she should be forced to face the same level of community harassment that other people have to deal with when they lose a spouse."
Thank God for that line.
Submitted by locksly (user info) at 2006-11-04 23:22:39 EST (#)
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"I've always been of the opinion.... I've also never understood"
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Thats all I got from this post.
Submitted by QueenAshlee (user info) at 2006-11-04 23:19:52 EST (#)
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How are you so consistantly awesome?
Submitted by thorpe (user info) at 2006-11-04 23:07:04 EST (#)
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Indo seems to be the only person trying to argue against Loki's stand here.
"Submitted by indoninja (user info) at 2006-11-03 11:54:57 (#)
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...We shouldn't change the definition of marriage to satisfy a few fucking lesbians in your home town...
...But I have a big problem with redefining culture for a small group of people...
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etc.
Okay let's assume that the arguments against gay marriage are all correct, that marriage is by definition between a man and a woman (and therefore should always be?), that gay marriage would be a mockery of the institution, that it is immoral etc.
What a government should then be doing is weighing the rights of people who hold those beliefs to not feel offended, confronted or academically frustrated ("IT JUST ISN'T REAL MARRIAGE") against the rights of gay people who want to marry the person they love.
In other words, indoninja's "big problem" is slightly unfortunate for him, but why should anyone give two shits? It's certainly not a problem that's worth inflicting a far worse problem on a large sector of the community.
Submitted by coley (user info) at 2006-11-04 16:00:41 EST (#)
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Submitted by rad1101 (user info) at 2006-11-04 05:37:32 (#)
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how exactly does that translate into an increase of lesbian porn?
just because a person is gay doesnt mean they are of loose morals
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there's a bad, bad joke in there somewhere.
*shoots self*
Submitted by jgreening (user info) at 2006-11-04 15:37:38 EST (#)
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That is why I love Spooner.
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Submitted by ScarfaceMN (user info) at 2006-11-04 15:21:45 EST (#)
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Submitted by icarus1987 (user info) at 2006-11-03 11:03:04 (#)
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Submitted by leilani (user info) at 2006-11-03 10:40:42 (#)
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yeah but black people buy those "mahogany" cards
i think ghey cards are a great business idea
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Interesting point re: black folk. Ever since my father-in-law (the whitest, pastiest guy I've ever met (and I live in the midwest)) married this black woman from the ghetto, he's sent my wife these Christmas and birthday cards with paintings of black angels/families etc on them. I've always assumed black people do it to remind the rest of us they're black. I'm guessing he does it to convince us he's not racist.
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Tandy, thanks for fucking ruining my "you mother is gay" joke with this crap. *WEEPS*
Submitted by Newty (user info) at 2006-11-04 14:01:09 EST (#)
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yeh what on earth are you on about? you think all lesbians make porn?????????? stupid asshole
Submitted by rad1101 (user info) at 2006-11-04 05:37:32 EST (#)
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how exactly does that translate into an increase of lesbian porn?
just because a person is gay doesnt mean they are of loose morals
Submitted by kuroneko_sama (user info) at 2006-11-04 05:12:53 EST (#)
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so they get "married" or whatever its called. not a problem for me, wont have any effect on me in any way shape or form wether or not gays can get married, or civil union, or call each other spouse, or not
so ill simply say "whatever" if the want it, let em have it.
afterall, it utimately just means an increase in lesbian porn
and i can only approve an increase in lesbian porn
anybody that cant appreciate that, needs to be shot in the face and lit on fire
Submitted by Wildman (user info) at 2006-11-04 04:56:15 EST (#)
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hey!, i've got an idea
why don't they get off, and then out, of each others asses and make new law?
Submitted by Spooner (user info) at 2006-11-04 02:13:14 EST (#)
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The whole thing that gets me is people who act as if allowing gay marriage means we're redefining thousands of years of tradition. As if marriage hasn't been redefined multiple times in the history of only this country.
Marriage used to not be about love, it was about having children... so they could work farmland and you wouldn't starve to death. In fact, a man would marry multiple wives to ensure he'd have enough children to take care of him.
Marriage used to be about strengthening political and social bonds by having your daughter marry the son of your business parter or a neighboring royalty.
Marriage, in the United States, used to be an institution where the woman became property of her husband. A woman in a marriage gave nearly all her rights over to her husband.
Marriage, in the United States, used to be limited to only people of the certain race. Indeed, there are Uberers here older than the current state of "traditional" marriage. 1967 was the year that Loving V. Virginia ruled against anti-miscegenation laws. So traditional marriage, as it is now defined as a union between a man and woman of any race where the woman is on equal footing as the man and the reason for marriage is typically love and not economic or social benefit, has existed for roughly thirty-nine years. Hey, that's a tradition almost FOUR decades old!
I think we could make one of those signs like you see outside factories advertising how safe they by how long it's been since their last accident: "Marriage: [39] years since our last redefinition!"
Submitted by indoninja (user info) at 2006-11-04 00:46:19 EST (#)
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Submitted by loki (user info) at 2006-11-03 18:07:59 (#)
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I thought god was an asshole when I first heard that Job story. So let's see God and the devil decide to use this guy to settle a bet. They put him through hell, kill off his family, and then in the end all is supposed to be well because they gave it all back to him? Sucks for the wife and kids but then it's not like women and children are all that important.
yea that's just ducky
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I always thought we were the bet. Job didn't happen, it is a parable for us.
I wonder if you thought god was an asshole if you thought you were going to die. Have you ever been in any of those i might die moments? did you think he was an asshole then?
I have been. And I recognize that there is a psychological reaction to near death experiences.
And I recgnize that Jesus is just as realistic as spaghetti monster.
and i a m drunk
Submitted by indoninja (user info) at 2006-11-04 00:23:57 EST (#)
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Submitted by hidden101 (user info) at 2006-11-03 12:58:33 (#)
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A SMALL GROUP OF PEOPLE? HAVE YOU BEEN LIVING UNDER A ROCK?
gays don't want to ruin your precious holy matrimony. they want to be afforded the same rights and respect that a straight couple gets.
as a side note, i've known plenty of christian gay couples and i've always wondered how they can dedicate themselves to a religion that tells them they will burn in hell.
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I am from a catholic family. I was brought up catholic. I am not being married by a priest.
I am not overly "religion sensitive" on marriage.
Maybe I am looking at it wrong, maybe I am an asshole, I try to be open minded, but a marriage by definition is a union between a man and a woman. Have civil unions legal, take marriage off the law books.
Christianity doesn't damn fudge packers to hell.
By the way legislating that gay unions are the same as marriages will not help random couples in bumfuck towns like where loki is talking about.
Submitted by rad1101 (user info) at 2006-11-03 23:28:35 EST (#)
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IF YOU ARE AGAINST GAY MARRIAGE THEN DON'T MARRY A GAY PERSON.
fucking christians.
OH, why don't you bother reading my posts anymore? I pretty much say the same things, but with added bits of nasty.
Submitted by creep_firebombing (user info) at 2006-11-03 22:14:11 EST (#)
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Agreed.
Submitted by loki (user info) at 2006-11-03 18:07:59 EST (#)
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I thought god was an asshole when I first heard that Job story. So let's see God and the devil decide to use this guy to settle a bet. They put him through hell, kill off his family, and then in the end all is supposed to be well because they gave it all back to him? Sucks for the wife and kids but then it's not like women and children are all that important.
yea that's just ducky
Submitted by Shlongy (user info) at 2006-11-03 17:55:03 EST (#)
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Speaking of "done to death", kill yourself you fucking boxy bore.
Submitted by Newty (user info) at 2006-11-03 17:29:50 EST (#)
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Submitted by loki (user info) at 2006-11-03 17:10:33 (#)
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damn
I got busy at work and didn't get back to this.
I hate when that happens.
Don't these people have any appreciation of my uber activities?
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*shocked gasp* they expect you to work for money?????? that's it im never getting a job
Submitted by loki (user info) at 2006-11-03 17:10:33 EST (#)
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damn
I got busy at work and didn't get back to this.
I hate when that happens.
Don't these people have any appreciation of my uber activities?
Submitted by jade_digitalmedia (user info) at 2006-11-03 16:58:41 EST (#)
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we are too retarded to vote down here in FL. however i will do my best.
Submitted by Newty (user info) at 2006-11-03 16:57:10 EST (#)
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Submitted by bob (user info) at 2006-11-03 16:55:27 (#)
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marriage, in the governmental sense, should be devoid of its religious context within society.
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as should all decisions made into law.
Submitted by bob (user info) at 2006-11-03 16:55:27 EST (#)
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marriage, in the governmental sense, should be devoid of its religious context within society.
Submitted by Newty (user info) at 2006-11-03 16:43:51 EST (#)
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Submitted by Newty (user info) at 2006-11-03 16:40:17 (#)
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Submitted by inion_de_trua (user info) at 2006-11-03 16:04:05 (#)
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i just asked an englishman and he said it was a uk recognized civil partnership, not a marriage.
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he's wrong its marriage. well it bloody better be! let me check
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just checked it's marriage, it's annoying because alot of people do think its civil unions. but why would there be such hype about it? civil unions are worth shit
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/in_depth/uk/930296.stm
Submitted by Newty (user info) at 2006-11-03 16:40:17 EST (#)
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Submitted by inion_de_trua (user info) at 2006-11-03 16:04:05 (#)
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i just asked an englishman and he said it was a uk recognized civil partnership, not a marriage.
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he's wrong its marriage. well it bloody better be! let me check
Submitted by inion_de_trua (user info) at 2006-11-03 16:04:05 EST (#)
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i just asked an englishman and he said it was a uk recognized civil partnership, not a marriage.
Submitted by Newty (user info) at 2006-11-03 15:50:10 EST (#)
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Submitted by inion_de_trua (user info) at 2006-11-03 15:28:54 (#)
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we got civil unions.
it's a step.
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over here in Britian we have marriage, yay us
Submitted by moneyshotforyou (user info) at 2006-11-03 15:47:23 EST (#)
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loki=auto+2
Submitted by inion_de_trua (user info) at 2006-11-03 15:28:54 EST (#)
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we got civil unions.
it's a step.
Submitted by Newty (user info) at 2006-11-03 15:19:51 EST (#)
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Submitted by coley (user info) at 2006-11-03 15:15:17 (#)
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Newty:
WELCOME TO UBERSITE
LAND OF THE FRIENDLY HAPPY WELCOMING INTERNET PEOPLE
:D
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YAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Submitted by Newty (user info) at 2006-11-03 15:19:18 EST (#)
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Submitted by Foolproof (user info) at 2006-11-03 15:10:44 (#)
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Of course you're young.
You use that ridiculous "leet speak" that drives me nuts and makes me think the user is retarded.
Are you retarded? No?
THEN SPELL OUT THE FUCKING WORDS!
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ok ok. ive been told off by coley on a different post as well. its not like i do it to offend you you know. im spelling properly ok????
Submitted by Foolproof (user info) at 2006-11-03 15:17:58 EST (#)
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Submitted by rillins (user info) at 2006-11-03 15:16:17 (#)
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Government is for the people, if people want to get married, let them. If government gives specials to married people, they can't deny marriage. I can understand why a church may not sanctify it, but gov't has no right. Call it marriage, call it a union, whatever you want. Consenting adults deserve equal rights.
HAHAHHAHAHAHAH!
You must not be an American. The government isn't ours, it's Christianlity's.
HAHAHAHAHHAHA!...
yer funny
Submitted by rillins (user info) at 2006-11-03 15:16:17 EST (#)
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Government is for the people, if people want to get married, let them. If government gives specials to married people, they can't deny marriage. I can understand why a church may not sanctify it, but gov't has no right. Call it marriage, call it a union, whatever you want. Consenting adults deserve equal rights.
Submitted by coley (user info) at 2006-11-03 15:15:17 EST (#)
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Newty:
WELCOME TO UBERSITE
LAND OF THE FRIENDLY HAPPY WELCOMING INTERNET PEOPLE
:D
Submitted by FartSmeller (user info) at 2006-11-03 15:11:18 EST (#)
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Submitted by AlwaysAnEagle (user info) at 2006-11-03 09:55:43 (#)
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My best friend is a conservative...
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Where the HELL have you been?
Submitted by Foolproof (user info) at 2006-11-03 15:10:44 EST (#)
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Of course you're young.
You use that ridiculous "leet speak" that drives me nuts and makes me think the user is retarded.
Are you retarded? No?
THEN SPELL OUT THE FUCKING WORDS!
Submitted by FartSmeller (user info) at 2006-11-03 15:10:37 EST (#)
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Submitted by loki (user info) at 2006-11-03 14:18:20 (#)
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ok FINE but I'm only doing this because you have a cool dog
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I'll take your pity +2 this time, woman.
Submitted by Newty (user info) at 2006-11-03 15:04:20 EST (#)
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Submitted by Foolproof (user info) at 2006-11-03 14:39:56 (#)
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Because, Newty, it is well known that most athiests know more about the bible than believers. I studied and realized what a load of rotting horseshit it is. I was raised Catholic, but committed the mortal sin of THOUGHT.
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fair point. im atheist, raised agnostic. i was always taught that organised religion is just a way of controlling ppl and to live by ur own rules. i spose im too young to hav researched the bible it at gr8 lenth.
Submitted by Foolproof (user info) at 2006-11-03 14:45:20 EST (#)
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Do I need to do yet another religion post?
I can show the holes faster than "believers" can patch them up.
Our ignorance is called God, what we know is called sciece - Robert Ingersoll
Submitted by rob_berg (user info) at 2006-11-03 14:42:42 EST (#)
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Submitted by Foolproof (user info) at 2006-11-03 14:33:44 (#)
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What do I need to learn?
This?
And ye shall eat the flesh of your sons, and the flesh of your daughters shall ye eat.--Leviticus 26:29
Wives, be in subjection to your own husbands.--1 Peter 3:1
And the Spirit of the LORD came upon him, and he ... slew thirty men.--Judges 14:19
And when she had brought them unto him to eat, he took hold of her, and said unto her, Come lie with me, my sister.--2 Samuel 13:11
He that loveth father or mother more than me is not worthy of me: and he that loveth son or daughter more than me is not worthy of me.--Matthew 10:37
Give them, O LORD: what wilt thou give? give them a miscarrying womb and dry breasts.--Hosea 9:14
I saw an angel standing in the sun; and he cried with a loud voice, saying to all the fowls that fly in the midst of heaven, Come and gather yourselves together unto the supper of the great God; That ye may eat the flesh of kings, and the flesh of captains, and the flesh of mighty men.--Revelation 19:17-18
Let the woman learn in silence with all subjection. But I suffer not a woman to teach, nor to usurp authority over the man, but to be in silence.--1 Timothy 2:11-12
And ye shall eat the flesh of your sons, and the flesh of your daughters shall ye eat.--Leviticus 26:29
Yeah, great literary device ya got there.
Your "god" is an asshole.
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Wonderfully played.
Submitted by coley (user info) at 2006-11-03 14:40:51 EST (#)
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SEE ALSO
http://www.ubersite.com/m/50792
Submitted by Foolproof (user info) at 2006-11-03 14:39:56 EST (#)
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Because, Newty, it is well known that most athiests know more about the bible than believers. I studied and realized what a load of rotting horseshit it is. I was raised Catholic, but committed the mortal sin of THOUGHT.
Submitted by coley (user info) at 2006-11-03 14:39:40 EST (#)
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loki
you mean
OHHHH
THIS ONE?
http://www.ubersite.com/m/13919
*SHAMELESSLY LAME LINKWHORE ALERT*
Also I would like to take this opportunity to request that my many fans go back through the archives and read all of my shitty posts and comment and rate accordingly. I'm craving attention today.
THANK YOU
Submitted by Foolproof (user info) at 2006-11-03 14:38:17 EST (#)
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"Our Bible reveals to us the character of our god with minute and remorseless exactness... It is perhaps the most damnatory biography that exists in print anywhere. It makes Nero an angel of light and leading by contrast." - Mark Twain
"It should be made clear that in order to live a Christian life, any Christian must be able to discriminate and hate, because that's what the bible says." - Bernhard Kuiper
"The Christian faith from the beginning, is sacrifice: the sacrifice of all freedom, all pride, all self-confidence of spirit; it is at the same time subjection, self-derision, and self-mutilation." - Friedrich Nietzsche
"Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able? Then he is not omnipotent.
Is he able, but not willing? Then he is malevolent.
Is he both able and willing? Then whence cometh evil?
Is he neither able nor willing? Then why call him God?" - Epicurus
and on "god's" side?
"If you're not a born-again Christian, you're a failure as a human being." - Jerry Falwell
Submitted by Newty (user info) at 2006-11-03 14:37:10 EST (#)
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Submitted by Foolproof (user info) at 2006-11-03 14:33:44 (#)
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What do I need to learn?
This?
And ye shall eat the flesh of your sons, and the flesh of your daughters shall ye eat.--Leviticus 26:29
Wives, be in subjection to your own husbands.--1 Peter 3:1
And the Spirit of the LORD came upon him, and he ... slew thirty men.--Judges 14:19
And when she had brought them unto him to eat, he took hold of her, and said unto her, Come lie with me, my sister.--2 Samuel 13:11
He that loveth father or mother more than me is not worthy of me: and he that loveth son or daughter more than me is not worthy of me.--Matthew 10:37
Give them, O LORD: what wilt thou give? give them a miscarrying womb and dry breasts.--Hosea 9:14
I saw an angel standing in the sun; and he cried with a loud voice, saying to all the fowls that fly in the midst of heaven, Come and gather yourselves together unto the supper of the great God; That ye may eat the flesh of kings, and the flesh of captains, and the flesh of mighty men.--Revelation 19:17-18
Let the woman learn in silence with all subjection. But I suffer not a woman to teach, nor to usurp authority over the man, but to be in silence.--1 Timothy 2:11-12
And ye shall eat the flesh of your sons, and the flesh of your daughters shall ye eat.--Leviticus 26:29
Yeah, great literary device ya got there.
Your "god" is an asshole.
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tis true. and how cum u hav so many redy quoates from the bible if u h8 it so much?
Submitted by Foolproof (user info) at 2006-11-03 14:33:44 EST (#)
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What do I need to learn?
This?
And ye shall eat the flesh of your sons, and the flesh of your daughters shall ye eat.--Leviticus 26:29
Wives, be in subjection to your own husbands.--1 Peter 3:1
And the Spirit of the LORD came upon him, and he ... slew thirty men.--Judges 14:19
And when she had brought them unto him to eat, he took hold of her, and said unto her, Come lie with me, my sister.--2 Samuel 13:11
He that loveth father or mother more than me is not worthy of me: and he that loveth son or daughter more than me is not worthy of me.--Matthew 10:37
Give them, O LORD: what wilt thou give? give them a miscarrying womb and dry breasts.--Hosea 9:14
I saw an angel standing in the sun; and he cried with a loud voice, saying to all the fowls that fly in the midst of heaven, Come and gather yourselves together unto the supper of the great God; That ye may eat the flesh of kings, and the flesh of captains, and the flesh of mighty men.--Revelation 19:17-18
Let the woman learn in silence with all subjection. But I suffer not a woman to teach, nor to usurp authority over the man, but to be in silence.--1 Timothy 2:11-12
And ye shall eat the flesh of your sons, and the flesh of your daughters shall ye eat.--Leviticus 26:29
Yeah, great literary device ya got there.
Your "god" is an asshole.
Submitted by Newty (user info) at 2006-11-03 14:29:35 EST (#)
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Submitted by Foolproof (user info) at 2006-11-03 14:15:50 (#)
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For those spouting off "sanctity of marraige" I say this; that is a definition derived from archaic and ridiculous religious beliefs.
Know what else it says in the bible?
And he that blasphemeth the name of the LORD, he shall surely be put to death, and all the congregation shall certainly stone him. (Leviticus 24:16)
The woman shall not wear that which pertaineth unto a man, neither shall a man put on a woman's garment: for all that do so are abomination unto the LORD thy God. (Deuteronomy 22)
He that is wounded in the stones, or hath his privy member cut off, shall not enter into the congregation of the LORD.--Deuteronomy 23:1
Stop using the Bible as a debating reference. It makes you look like an idiot.
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glad u sed it be4 i had to do a shit load of reasearch (like actualy reading sum part of the bible).
Submitted by richsghostdog (user info) at 2006-11-03 14:27:33 EST (#)
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I'm so tired of what should be a no-brainer taking up so much time and discussion. Does anyone really care if gays can marry...except for gays?... I certainly don't, I have more important things to worry about though I see why gays want to...health insurance, medical proxies, estates, wills and so on..How would you like to live with/love someone your entire life only to be told at the end that you have no rights, don't matter and don't legally exist by doctors, lawyers, the stsate and relatives who probably never bothered with them anyway?
What about the important shit that needs to be discussed and legislated, I resent this no-brainer taking up space and time that could be used to discuss gun control, violence, the war in Iraq, homelessness, AIDS, the death penalty, the sex offender registry etc, etc and so on...everybody has a cause that is dear to them.
Once again, I agree with Loki,it's none of anyones business what anyone does behind closed doors and the SANCTITY of MARRIAGE...that's an oxymoron right up there with "military intelligence".
Examples: J-LO - "He's my soulmate"( how many time we hear that?)...every other month she's married/divorced/getting married again...last time to an already married guy who got a quickie divorce to marry her.
Julia Roberts..married/divorced twice, remarried to husband #2, divorced again and fucks a married cameraman and then buys him from his wife.
Meanwhile..Elton John..with the same partner for years, no scandals. Rosie O'Donnell..steady partner, has kids, wholesome home life. Jodie Foster...same partner for years, kids..no scandals.
AAARRGGGHHH...don't get me started!!!
Submitted by loki (user info) at 2006-11-03 14:27:20 EST (#)
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I suppose it depends on how you interpret the bible whether or not you view homosexuality as an unforgivable sin dooming you to eternal damnation or whatever it is. Some people don't take it so literally and that is between them and their god now isn't it.
Gluttony is a sin so all fat people are going to hell?
(insert forwarded Dr. Laura e-mail about wearing mixed cloths and stoning people here)
Cadrach, I'm afraid that I don't follow your logic.
I don't think this is a small number of people. I think there are quite a large number of people out there who are gay.
Submitted by swamp_donkey (user info) at 2006-11-03 14:23:39 EST (#)
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Submitted by Foolproof (user info) at 2006-11-03 14:15:50 (#)
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For those spouting off "sanctity of marraige" I say this; that is a definition derived from archaic and ridiculous religious beliefs.
Know what else it says in the bible?
And he that blasphemeth the name of the LORD, he shall surely be put to death, and all the congregation shall certainly stone him. (Leviticus 24:16)
The woman shall not wear that which pertaineth unto a man, neither shall a man put on a woman's garment: for all that do so are abomination unto the LORD thy God. (Deuteronomy 22)
He that is wounded in the stones, or hath his privy member cut off, shall not enter into the congregation of the LORD.--Deuteronomy 23:1
Stop using the Bible as a debating reference. It makes you look like an idiot.
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Learn something about the Bible. Responses like this make YOU look like an idiot.
Submitted by Foolproof (user info) at 2006-11-03 14:15:50 EST (#)
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For those spouting off "sanctity of marraige" I say this; that is a definition derived from archaic and ridiculous religious beliefs.
Know what else it says in the bible?
And he that blasphemeth the name of the LORD, he shall surely be put to death, and all the congregation shall certainly stone him. (Leviticus 24:16)
The woman shall not wear that which pertaineth unto a man, neither shall a man put on a woman's garment: for all that do so are abomination unto the LORD thy God. (Deuteronomy 22)
He that is wounded in the stones, or hath his privy member cut off, shall not enter into the congregation of the LORD.--Deuteronomy 23:1
Stop using the Bible as a debating reference. It makes you look like an idiot.
Submitted by Orgasmatron (user info) at 2006-11-03 13:58:17 EST (#)
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Submitted by coley (user info) at 2006-11-03 13:33:46 (#)
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Let gay people marry and suffer like the rest of us!
Submitted by rob_berg (user info) at 2006-11-03 13:56:13 EST (#)
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I also approve.
Submitted by FartSmeller (user info) at 2006-11-03 13:49:20 EST (#)
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Even though you -2'ed my last post and made me very sad and I cried some, I liked this post.
You could have stopped with the first sentence, I think, that should be everyone's attitude. Shame that it's not.
Submitted by coley (user info) at 2006-11-03 13:33:46 EST (#)
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Let gay people marry and suffer like the rest of us!
Submitted by ubetidid (user info) at 2006-11-03 13:27:56 EST (#)
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I'm thrilled at the prospect of gay people getting married.
Then they can get divorced like everybody else. And they'll need an
attorney, need MANY depositions, court appearances, commissioner's
hearing and ME their court reporter.
I can make tons of money off of them, too.
Submitted by rennfahrer (user info) at 2006-11-03 13:09:23 EST (#)
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No Comment
Submitted by hidden101 (user info) at 2006-11-03 12:58:33 EST (#)
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Submitted by indoninja (user info) at 2006-11-03 11:54:57 (#)
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Bullshit.
We shouldn't change the definition of marriage to satisfy a few fucking lesbians in your home town.
Or a bunch of fucking fags in sanfrancisco.
Do you think if it was legal that everyone in your town would open their heart and treat their relationship as "normal", do you think they would be accepted more because the state redefined the word marriage?
To be honest I don't really care, I wouldn't pick a candidate over this, it isn't a deal breaker when I vote. I am ok with civil unions. But I have a big problem with redefining culture for a small group of people.
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A SMALL GROUP OF PEOPLE? HAVE YOU BEEN LIVING UNDER A ROCK?
gays don't want to ruin your precious holy matrimony. they want to be afforded the same rights and respect that a straight couple gets.
as a side note, i've known plenty of christian gay couples and i've always wondered how they can dedicate themselves to a religion that tells them they will burn in hell.
Submitted by BLITZKREIG_BOB (user info) at 2006-11-03 12:38:07 EST (#)
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Submitted by scum101 (user info) at 2006-11-03 12:21:23 (#)
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faggots getting married is the same thing as beastiality, next thing you know all the lonely business women will be marrying their puppies because they eat that peanut butter so soflty from their dry underused cracked cheesey pussies, and then that is technically UNDERAGE BEASTIALITY.
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I think I'm beginning to like this kid, Ma.
Submitted by St_Jimmy (user info) at 2006-11-03 12:24:09 EST (#)
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I'm for ghey marriage. If you want to protect the "sanctity" of marriage, you should ban divorce.
Submitted by scum101 (user info) at 2006-11-03 12:21:23 EST (#)
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faggots getting married is the same thing as beastiality, next thing you know all the lonely business women will be marrying their puppies because they eat that peanut butter so soflty from their dry underused cracked cheesey pussies, and then that is technically UNDERAGE BEASTIALITY.
Submitted by Newty (user info) at 2006-11-03 12:14:29 EST (#)
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Submitted by indoninja (user info) at 2006-11-03 11:54:57 (#)
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Bullshit.
We shouldn't change the definition of marriage to satisfy a few fucking lesbians in your home town.
Or a bunch of fucking fags in sanfrancisco.
Do you think if it was legal that everyone in your town would open their heart and treat their relationship as "normal", do you think they would be accepted more because the state redefined the word marriage?
To be honest I don't really care, I wouldn't pick a candidate over this, it isn't a deal breaker when I vote. I am ok with civil unions. But I have a big problem with redefining culture for a small group of people.
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erm.....FUK U! its not a small group of ppl its 10% of the population. and ppl shold hav the right to express there lov for each other through marriage. alot of ppl dream of getting married from wen their very young, u want to take that away from ppl? u think we shold be seperated coz of the way wer born??????????????????????????????
Submitted by indoninja (user info) at 2006-11-03 11:54:57 EST (#)
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Bullshit.
We shouldn't change the definition of marriage to satisfy a few fucking lesbians in your home town.
Or a bunch of fucking fags in sanfrancisco.
Do you think if it was legal that everyone in your town would open their heart and treat their relationship as "normal", do you think they would be accepted more because the state redefined the word marriage?
To be honest I don't really care, I wouldn't pick a candidate over this, it isn't a deal breaker when I vote. I am ok with civil unions. But I have a big problem with redefining culture for a small group of people.
Submitted by Cadrach (user info) at 2006-11-03 11:44:19 EST (#)
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I buy those Mahogony cards exclusively to prove that I AM racist. Or at least to expose the racism/taboo of a cracker buying something not intended for his kind.
Question: How is you speculating about the nature of the relationship of these two women (make no mistake she lost a spouse) any different than the bad people trying to figure out what position they used to have sex in and making tsk, tsk, tsk noises?
Mind your own business, right? For whatever reasons they chose not to make an issue of the nature/extent of their relationship. Respect that.
Submitted by Newty (user info) at 2006-11-03 11:24:48 EST (#)
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hey i hav 1 question, y do americans spell gay ghey?
Submitted by Foolproof (user info) at 2006-11-03 11:18:41 EST (#)
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I'm on the side of gay marraige.
I posted those because people seem to have no problem with them.
Submitted by icarus1987 (user info) at 2006-11-03 11:03:04 EST (#)
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Submitted by leilani (user info) at 2006-11-03 10:40:42 (#)
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yeah but black people buy those "mahogany" cards
i think ghey cards are a great business idea
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Interesting point re: black folk. Ever since my father-in-law (the whitest, pastiest guy I've ever met (and I live in the midwest)) married this black woman from the ghetto, he's sent my wife these Christmas and birthday cards with paintings of black angels/families etc on them. I've always assumed black people do it to remind the rest of us they're black. I'm guessing he does it to convince us he's not racist.
Submitted by congo (user info) at 2006-11-03 10:59:21 EST (#)
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you're right.
Submitted by firefly (user info) at 2006-11-03 10:46:26 EST (#)
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No Comment
Submitted by jgreening (user info) at 2006-11-03 10:42:44 EST (#)
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This is why I love Colorado. Referendum I, the domestic partnership ballot issue, CLEARLY states marragie as between a man and a woman *AND* gives basic legal rights like hospital visitation, non-willed property disbursment, spousal insurance coverage etc etc to all gay couples, and makes it illegal for any governmental office in the state or for any corporation that does business in the state to withhold those rights from any couple that presents a valid compact between the parties involved.
It's a win/win, I think. Sure, sure, it's not "marraige" for gays, but marraige isn't a "legal" thing, it's a "religious" thing.
IMHO, I think the government whould get out of "marraige" and say: "If you want to be married, gay or straight, that is up to the individual churches to say yes or no. But if you want to be civilly joined, again gay or straight, line up at the registrar and have your form of payment ready."
Submitted by leilani (user info) at 2006-11-03 10:40:42 EST (#)
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Submitted by icarus1987 (user info) at 2006-11-03 10:05:18 (#)
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You're not making any sense, Bones. Why would a gay person buy gay sympathy cards? You don't see Christian people buying Christian bar mitzvah cards.
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yeah but black people buy those "mahogany" cards
i think ghey cards are a great business idea
Submitted by loki (user info) at 2006-11-03 10:35:13 EST (#)
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Foolproof the key is "consenting adult"
1. a hill is not a consenting adult
2. a goat is not a consenting adult
3. incest is illegal and a bad idea for genetic purposes - ie British royal family
4. a dog is not a consenting adult
5. incest is, here again illegal and taboo in most cultures
6. a nine year old girl is not a consenting adult and neither is a dog
7. a dog is not a consenting adult even in Nepal
8. a snake is also not a consenting adult
next
Submitted by cleanfornow (user info) at 2006-11-03 10:32:37 EST (#)
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You forgot to mention that it's Bush's fault (hahaha)
Submitted by hour_man (user info) at 2006-11-03 10:25:25 EST (#)
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Submitted by Bigmike (user info) at 2006-11-03 09:47:35 (#)
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Anybody who wants to be married, whether gay or straight, does so at their own risk.
That's how I feel about it anyway.
Submitted by Foolproof (user info) at 2006-11-03 10:23:19 EST (#)
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A 16-year-old man in a Jharkhand village got married to a hill so that his mother could "clear herself of a curse".
A Sudanese man has been forced to take a goat as his "wife", after he was caught having sex with the animal.
An Iraqi refugee with residence permission in Norway married his own mother, in a desperate attempt to bring the rest of his family to the country.
A 75-year-old man in Nepal married a dog in a local custom to ensure good luck only to die three days later, a newspaper reported.
Fisher Island millionaire Bruce McMahan loved his daughter so much, he married her.
June 2003 - a nine year old Indian girl of the Santal (or 'Santhal') tribe of Khanyhan, near Calcutta was formally married to a dog, in order to ward off a bad omen.
February 2004 - a seventy five year old man from Kathmandu Nepal married a dog "in a local custom" of his Tharu community, attended by his son and other relatives.
June 2006 - an Indian woman from Bhubaneswar, Orissa, who "who fell in love with a snake", married the reptile at a "traditional Hindu wedding celebrated by 2,000 guests".
Submitted by GMCrayon (user info) at 2006-11-03 10:20:15 EST (#)
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Gay marriage is the one issue I can never see the other side of. It is too senseless to be believed.
Submitted by icarus1987 (user info) at 2006-11-03 10:18:28 EST (#)
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Except the argument against marital polygamy is usually that they recruit before the age of consent, which is illegal. I'm not aware of any such argument against gay marriage.
Submitted by jack11058 (user info) at 2006-11-03 10:14:48 EST (#)
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agreed. all should read below article. we are supposed to be the most free country in the world. you gays aren't going to hurt anyone. you can't legislate "morality".
http://www.boston.com/news/globe/editorial_opinion/oped/articles/2006/11/02/blame_it_all_on_the_gay_agenda/
Submitted by loki (user info) at 2006-11-03 10:08:19 EST (#)
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There are quite a few churches out there that agree with gay marriage. If you think about it, it's a bit odd that there is a religious ceremony with legal contractual implications. Especially when you throw in the complications of the state then telling the church who does and does not qualify for legal recognition of that ceremony. But then again, I suppose the same argument could be made for polygamy couldn't it.
ah and now we tread on the slippery slope
Submitted by icarus1987 (user info) at 2006-11-03 10:05:18 EST (#)
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You're not making any sense, Bones. Why would a gay person buy gay sympathy cards? You don't see Christian people buying Christian bar mitzvah cards.
Submitted by ScarfaceMN (user info) at 2006-11-03 10:01:55 EST (#)
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Submitted by icarus1987 (user info) at 2006-11-03 10:00:23 (#)
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My mom buys sympathy cards for gay people?
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James, I was IMPLYING that your mother is a gay person.
Submitted by icarus1987 (user info) at 2006-11-03 10:00:23 EST (#)
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My mom buys sympathy cards for gay people?
Submitted by Sacrilicious (user info) at 2006-11-03 09:59:59 EST (#)
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My sympathies for the loss of your friend.
I agree with you 100%.
Submitted by ScarfaceMN (user info) at 2006-11-03 09:59:17 EST (#)
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Submitted by icarus1987 (user info) at 2006-11-03 09:54:05 (#)
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I wonder if they have a section in Hallmark for gay weddings/anniversary/sympathy cards?
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Ask your mom, she'd know. Oh snap!
Wow, I'm a jerk.
Submitted by AlwaysAnEagle (user info) at 2006-11-03 09:55:43 EST (#)
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My best friend is a conservative, so we have some fun discussing politics - luckily she's a thinking conservative and I'm a thinking liberal, so we can find what middle ground there may be and disagree without shrieking at each other and such.
We both sort of agreed that the term "marriage" is a huge part of the sticking point. Her theory is that any couple, regardless of orientation, should be able to become a civil union (or other, more creative term if necessary) under the law, which would cover all the legal stuff, i.e. who gets your stuff when you die, etc., but that to be married they just need to find a church that's down with marrying them, therefore having the rubber stamp of "married" rather than..."unionized" I guess.
Makes a fair amount of sense to me.
Submitted by icarus1987 (user info) at 2006-11-03 09:54:05 EST (#)
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I wonder if they have a section in Hallmark for gay weddings/anniversary/sympathy cards?
Submitted by loki (user info) at 2006-11-03 09:53:51 EST (#)
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It's sad, they were like those eccentric great aunts that everyone has.
Submitted by TigerLilly (user info) at 2006-11-03 09:50:34 EST (#)
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No Comment
Submitted by Bigmike (user info) at 2006-11-03 09:47:35 EST (#)
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Anybody who wants to be married, whether gay or straight, does so at their own risk.
That's how I feel about it anyway.
Submitted by ScarfaceMN (user info) at 2006-11-03 09:47:06 EST (#)
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The Brittney Spears comment sealed your -1 fate... every stand-up and late night host used that one up years ago. I personally would have went with the lesser used Elizabeth Taylor making a mockery of marriage thing.
As for the last part: People suck. And no, the hicks won't treat it at a death of spouse. I'm sorry for the loss of you friend.
Submitted by GMCrayon (user info) at 2006-11-03 09:43:08 EST (#)
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Yes
Submitted by BLITZKREIG_BOB (user info) at 2006-11-03 09:42:18 EST (#)
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I'm sorry for your loss.
Submitted by professorfuckface (user info) at 2006-11-03 09:41:31 EST (#)
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NO YOU CAN'T MARRY YOUR BULLDYKE CUNT OF A LADYFRIEND YOU UGLY WHORE
SHUT THE FUCK UP